Issue 5 - Page 10

8th Sep 2017, 6:00 PM in Into the Darkness - Part 1
Issue 5 - Page 10
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Steven-Vincent 8th Sep 2017, 6:00 PM edit delete
This shot proved much more difficult than I had thought. Liberty Lass is actually pretty high up, but the truck is so big that it doesn't look like she's all that high. Also, I tried about 5 different ways to do the special effects to show the impact. My final solution, 'camera shake' is... meh. Not exactly what I had imagined. But I guess it does the job.
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chk 8th Sep 2017, 7:27 PM edit delete reply
That's gonna leave a mark.
Rigor 8th Sep 2017, 9:55 PM edit delete reply
The real reason for secret identities: liability insurance costs too much.
Fafhred 9th Sep 2017, 1:05 AM edit delete reply
That scene had me think about a Roadrunner scene and falling anvils or pianos...
That trailer should have been from ACME xD
Steven-Vincent 9th Sep 2017, 8:30 AM edit delete reply
Meep meep!

Though if it was Road Runner... Mountain Man would have ordered the Acme Trailer himself and set it up to crush LL, and then would have crushed himself by accident.
Comic Fan 11th Sep 2017, 11:52 PM edit delete reply
It has always intrigued me how Superman can pick up a luxury liner or freighter in the middle without it folding in half or splitting in two, or a locomotive on one end and still be able to control it with all of its weight in front of him.

But of course there's an explanation. :) Your thoughts on how LL can hold a tractor trailor on one corner of one end?
Fafhred 12th Sep 2017, 1:42 AM edit delete reply
Strong enough hands ;-)
Deoxy 12th Sep 2017, 12:54 PM edit delete reply
That's one of my favorite little bits of trivia in the Grrl Power comic - there's only one hero who can do that, and it's part of her power set. Other heroes have to actually hold stuff in a reasonable fashion or it breaks.

In a case like this, it doesn't matter how strong your hands are, the material you're holding on to isn't strong enough to bear the load and would bend or break.

Of course, that's a common trope of superhero comics and cartoons - the ones that actually worry about it in the slightest are a very small minority. Doesn't hurt the comic in the slightest (other than comments from silly people like us).
Steven-Vincent 12th Sep 2017, 4:40 PM edit delete reply
She is not holding it by a corner. It's not visible in the shots but the truck is undergirded by a steel frame. She's holding one steel girder of the frame in each hand. I actually spent quite a while fighting with the character model to get the hands to grip the frame correctly and not clip through, and then it turned out that you can't even see that in the camera shot.
Deoxy 15th Sep 2017, 10:19 AM edit delete reply
No, I can see it just fine, actually - frames 2 and 3. What I'm pointing out is that those steel girders would turn to paste in her hand before they would hold all that weight (judging by the hit on MM, it's not empty) the way she's holding it.

A well-centered hold position MIGHT work, and with a trailer like that (where you can actually get under it and lift it by directly under the center of mass), it is conceivable, but where she's holding it, but the grip strength she would have to use to hold up the other end (leverage is nasty) would literally crush the steel. Even if that was magically solved, the steel girders are almost certainly not up to task without support at both ends.

Again, not a real problem (this is a super hero comic, and one of the tropes of the genre is super-strong people picking up cars by the bumper and swinging them about like baseball bats - that fails SO MANY WAYS, and nobody cares), but if you're aiming to solve it anyway... well, sorry.
Steven-Vincent 15th Sep 2017, 6:07 PM edit delete reply
I am not aiming to solve it. I was stating that she is not holding it 'by a corner.'
Nef 26th Jan 2018, 5:45 PM edit delete reply
In the Supergirl TV show they actually acknowledged this problem, making her cause damage to an oil tanker while trying to move it. My pet peeve has always been momentum (as in a small, approximately human-sized hero being able to stop a massive object instantly, and sometimes throw it back. It doesn't matter how strong you are, Mr. Superhero, but if the object is 1,000 times your mass, where are you leveraging yourself to transfer that amount of force?

I know... Why argue physics in a universe where heroes can fly? I know.
Steven-Vincent 26th Jan 2018, 6:25 PM edit delete reply
Liberty Lass is holding the truck by its undergirding frame, with her hands spread as wide as possible. Maybe in the real world that would not be enough but she is not just holding it by a corner.

Supergirl tried to move a full tanker ship by just pushing on the tip of the thing. In that same episode she is shown successfully lowering an ambulance while just holding its rear bumper -- the center of the thing didn't collapse under all that weight either. She is also trying to be gentle here, so she is successful.

I think we have to be careful on the over-application of real-world physics to this. If the hero is being careless, there is a big difference compared to the hero trying to distribute the weight as much as possible.
Comic Fan 12th Sep 2017, 6:22 AM edit delete reply
It just occurred to me that she brained him in the .. um, brainbucket. Hah.
Steven-Vincent 12th Sep 2017, 4:41 PM edit delete reply
I dunno how many brains MM has... heh.
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